tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post6681775925828589252..comments2024-03-03T23:03:20.977-08:00Comments on Talk Stephen King: Batman #400: BATMAN or SUPERMANUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-15012502271413284932013-03-18T22:22:23.236-07:002013-03-18T22:22:23.236-07:00There is a whole Apocalypse Now thing going on wit...There is a whole Apocalypse Now thing going on with Batman. There is a strong element of the Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad, which coincidentally in the Batman video game, by no small coincidence. Batman Rises even plays out the theme of both it And Apocalypse Now, so I don't wonder, or, rather I 'do' wonder. Apocalypse Now was filmed with an actual war and real death going on. The Heart of Darkness was immortalized in Flicker, by Theodore Roszak, as a movie filmed as a movie within a movie, with a live sacrafice within it. James Holmes performed a 'live sacrafice' in Aurora during it being shown. Superman's Neitzshe's fodder and the Dark Knights grandfather originated Skull and Bones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-45497898274835466522012-07-20T04:57:25.976-07:002012-07-20T04:57:25.976-07:00Well, it's sorta been a while since this entry...Well, it's sorta been a while since this entry.<br /><br />My take on DK Rises? I'm gonna be in trouble with a lot of Bat fans out there. Let sum up by giving reviews of all three Nolan/Batman films.<br /><br />Batman Begins: (shrugs) Meh.<br /><br />Dark Knight (shrugs) Meh.<br /><br />Dark Knight Rises: Meh.<br /><br />And now to get in even more trouble, I think the MST3K Rifftrax commentary for Dark Knight was hilarious, and predict that Dark Knight Rises will soon find it's way there as well.<br /><br />Suffice to say my opion of comic book superheroes remains the same. In fact, ever since reading Dostoyevsky (the greatest writer on the psychology of Sin), I've often wondered what would happen if the anarchists from the book "Demons" were to run into any of the comic book villains or super villains.<br /><br />It was no contest, Dost's. characters trumped any DC or marvel villain in my mind, these guys could whither Batman with a dour nihilistic glance.<br /><br />That's my thinking though.<br /><br />ChrisCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-35761367556165036762012-03-25T20:35:02.539-07:002012-03-25T20:35:02.539-07:00Make that permanently encased in ASOLSCENCE, Chris...Make that permanently encased in ASOLSCENCE, Chris. "Permanently encased in adolescents" would mean something entirely different.<br /><br />To answer the question: no, I don't think that is what makes the DT comics suffer at all. What's made them suffer, when they have suffered (which hasn't been every issue), is a too-rushed approach to adapting King's source material, along with a poor sense of where to take the story when it comes to key story details King has not yet written (such as the fall of Gilead).Bryant Burnettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189356171455609865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-34890918706737855472012-03-25T20:11:04.288-07:002012-03-25T20:11:04.288-07:00It just occured to me that ther's a King relat...It just occured to me that ther's a King related question to ask about all this.<br /><br />Considering what's been said above about being "permanently encased in adolescents", I'd ask Bryant, knowing his opinions regarding the Dark Tower comics if it isn't maybe these same faults that makes the Tower comic series suffer as a whole?<br /><br />My own two cents amounts to the idea that whatever the Tower book series "Is", the comics are a definite reflection of what a lot of fans "Want" it to be, perhaps even feel they "Need" to be.<br /><br />ChrisCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-21815987198556949492012-03-25T20:01:46.263-07:002012-03-25T20:01:46.263-07:00On the same not, it always seems strange to me tha...On the same not, it always seems strange to me that there is so much Kryptonite floating around! How do you get this stuff? Is Lex buying it off ebay?David Squyreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632008924923459612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-36856030931339977112012-03-25T19:54:03.975-07:002012-03-25T19:54:03.975-07:00There is sort of an irony for me in the fact that ...There is sort of an irony for me in the fact that a human character like Batman can take out such omnipotent characters like Darkside (I know I spelled that wrong) yet he always seems crippled in the presence of some guy in clown make-up.<br /><br />Of course, devoted constant readers will see nothing strange in this.<br /><br />ChrisCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-14025719399819098362012-03-25T17:50:20.917-07:002012-03-25T17:50:20.917-07:00AHHHH!!!! Fransisco hit the nail on the head for ...AHHHH!!!! Fransisco hit the nail on the head for me. How can you take a villain named "joker" or "penguin" as a serious threat. A guy named "Lex Luther" even sounds scary.David Squyreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632008924923459612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-69616125190324786282012-03-25T16:46:00.029-07:002012-03-25T16:46:00.029-07:00althought I don't have read a lot of super her...althought I don't have read a lot of super heroes comic books (I prefer Conan and horror anthologies like Creepy or the old Ec stuff)I prefer Batman, althought I think his gallery of villains the joker, the penguin... is ridiculousfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16141925304481130360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-43061157424788140592012-03-25T15:04:16.812-07:002012-03-25T15:04:16.812-07:00There is no doubt that a great many superhero comi...There is no doubt that a great many superhero comics -- even today -- are written by and for people who are permanently encased in adolescence.<br /><br />In the great Superman or Batman debate, I take no side: I love them both.Bryant Burnettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189356171455609865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-79502706485926894652012-03-25T14:25:44.182-07:002012-03-25T14:25:44.182-07:00Well, thanks for that at least, Reverend. To be fa...Well, thanks for that at least, Reverend. To be fair, one of the things I've since come to not like about comics is the treatment of women in a lot of them.<br /><br />Based on what Ive seen, what it suggests to me is a basic immaturity on the writer's part, an inability to deal with women as women if you will. A clear case of stunted arrested devolopment. Reading over what I have written, maybe that's the falw I find in comics.<br /><br />ChrisC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-4744799703410893542012-03-25T08:14:13.675-07:002012-03-25T08:14:13.675-07:00Chris. . .
oh my,
You don't have to base it on...Chris. . .<br />oh my,<br />You don't have to base it on the comics. Which do you have a natural inclination toward?<br /><br />But I like that vote for Superman.<br /><br />As I said, I don't read comics, either. But I never did! Didn't even watch cartoons as a kid. Not that parents forbid it. . . just wasn't tha kind of kid. Spent a lot of time playing out back and making up stuff, not enough attention to sit through TV shows or read comics.David Squyreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632008924923459612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-89880651108026317312012-03-25T03:31:35.785-07:002012-03-25T03:31:35.785-07:00No one is going to like my cents. Here's the ...No one is going to like my cents. Here's the thing; I used to read superhero comics when I was a kid, and Superman used to be my favorite.<br /><br />Nowadays, my opinion toward all superhero comics, Marvel and DC, is summed u in a MAD Magazine compilation that's still on sale as of this date I believe, MAD about Superheroes. On the cover it features Supe and Bats posing for the cover and yet looking slightly perturbed by the addition of a grinning Alfred E. Neuman wearing a green bath-towel and MAD logo T-shirt.<br /><br />One panel in particular among the whole book sums up my thoughts on comic book super heroes, it's a final splash page in which the X-Men are facing off against a collective of their ultimate foe. The ringleader of the ultimate enemy grins, chews on a carrot and asks sarcasticly, "What's Up, Doc?"<br /><br />One of the X-Men says, "I think we're in trouble," to which another enemy replies in a voice dripping with menace, "Th-th-th-the-uh-th-th-the-uh-That's all folks."<br /><br />For me a big part is the difference between inspiration and invention in art. I'm not saying invention has no place, however there be good and bad as the pirates say.<br /><br />Another thing that killed superhero comics for me? I made one great mistake, I started reading Stephen King who got me interested in book by Mark Twain and from there my world had moved on. When I cam back to the old DC issues I was stunned by how, um, mediocre I guess they were.<br /><br />Sorry. So who do I like better? Well, the Looney Tunes of course.<br /><br />ChrisCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-71191560529193550662012-03-24T23:51:47.507-07:002012-03-24T23:51:47.507-07:00Okay. . . I'll go first. . .
I prefer Superma...Okay. . . I'll go first. . .<br /><br />I prefer Superman. With respectful nods to King's arguments. The dark batman is really cool. But Batman gets. . . how do I say. . . complicated. <br /><br />And now some admissions: I'm not a comic book guy. So, I'm relying on pop culture TV and movies. . . and a few comics. <br /><br />Now I WANT to like Batman. But I was raised with Superman. it might be that simple. We were a superman household. I don't know why. Maybe because my mom thought Christopher Reeves was beautiful. <br /><br />Why I prefer Superman:<br /><br />1. He can fly. How cool is that? King can laugh all he wants, but the guy can fly! Yes, the Batmobile is cool. . . but who doesn't want to fly?<br /><br />2. He stands for truth, justice and the American way. <br /><br />3. He works for a newspaper and lives in an apartment. He works to be one of us. <br /><br />4. He has the fortress of solitude. I'll not argue it better than the bat cave, because it's obvious. A guy can say he's going to his bat cave. . . but what he really wants is solitude.<br /><br />5. There is something -- bare with me -- messianic about the guy. Consider (rememeber, I can't help it, okay!). . .<br />--Superman came from the father above. <br />--He lives among us as an ordinary man. (the Incarnation)<br />--Superman was sent to save humanity. (Redemption)<br />--Superman died, but came back! (Resurrection) Now seriously, can anyone see some connections here? <br />--He stands opposed to evil.<br /><br />I mean, cool as Batman is, you make a connection that strong to the Messiah -- and a preacher just can't resist.<br /><br />Besides, he can fly!David Squyreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16632008924923459612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1175798629534874434.post-80113990757290967882012-03-24T23:05:14.589-07:002012-03-24T23:05:14.589-07:00I'd love to see what King would do writing a s...I'd love to see what King would do writing a superhero comic one of these days.Bryant Burnettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01189356171455609865noreply@blogger.com